obama runs the justice department. they have successfully prosecuted nobody in the financial crisis. zero, sill much. nobody. >> you said sarbains oxley should have been able to get a lot of these guys. >> yeah. so the hurdle for finding people guilty of fraud or misdoings in financial markets is so high, people give you, well, i didn't know know. look at karzai. >> berkshire came out with an internal report which they published that laid all this out. this is here on a silver platter, we think this is not right and the s.e.c. says, well, maybe this is -- >> but you're right. it's thinking they could win. >> you'd have to go and look at lawyers and say here is this statute. can this apply here? that's the problem with the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. the spirit of the law, to me, looks like it was violated in this case. >> berkshire's own bylaws were violated. >> and that is why i thought the s.e.c. could bridge a case, but you get a jury on a juvenlg and was he stirred that could get this. and then som